Because let’s be honest—success isn’t just about strategy and spreadsheets. It’s about navigating the chaos, embracing the mess, and knowing when to throw out the playbook altogether.

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We're Heather & Blakely, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay.

Because at work, it’s not all business.

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